[bf1942] Should i Wine or should i go ?

[Fredriksson, Andreas]

When we develop a patch, almost half of time time is spent fixing up
little bugs that the test labs find. Client bugs would ruin the show
for everyone and there's no point in releasing a dedicated server if
there are no clients available.

That's the situation, try to live with it.

// Andreas (deep in the rendering code)

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christian Lahme [mailto:lahme at 4all-networks.de]
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 2:18 PM
> To: bf1942 at icculus.org
> Subject: AW: [bf1942] Should i Wine or should i go ?
> 
> 
> Yes i heard about it .. Yes.. But 2 month is much time ... 
> Too much time
> for this buisness, and too much time for providers, which only host on
> linux.
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Fredriksson, Andreas [mailto:andreas.fredriksson at dice.se] 
> Gesendet: Montag, 26. Mai 2003 13:15
> An: 'bf1942 at icculus.org'
> Betreff: RE: [bf1942] Should i Wine or should i go ?
> 
> 
> 
> Err.. have you heard the term "Quality Assurance", or perhaps "Testing
> lab"?
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christian Lahme [mailto:lahme at 4all-networks.de]
> > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2003 12:44 PM
> > To: bf1942 at icculus.org
> > Subject: AW: [bf1942] Should i Wine or should i go ?
> > 
> > 
> > Ok, Andreas, let me say what I´m thinking about it:
> > 
> > 1. Don´t do anymore bugfixes on Win32-Structure, only if 
> it´s in the 
> > client, not the server 2. Release 1.4 now!
> > 
> > Linux-Provider are getting in very hard discussion with there
> > customers.
> > We only can say that DICE isn´t able to fix that now, and that we´re
> > waiting for 2 month now on a patch. Come on, tell your 
> > managers that we
> > can´t wait anymore, not for this terrible Win32-Server. We need the
> > Linux-Version and I think most servers will run on a 
> > Linux-Maschine, not
> > on a Win32, just because of the scriptings and some other 
> automatism,
> > the higher costs on Win2kServer-License and many other things like
> > security.
> > 
> > It´s very hard to see, that many customers getting angry just
> > because of
> > the ugly lagging servers in v. 1.3.1 on linux-machines. We´ve best
> > hardware-conditions, best uplinks on european networks and 
> we won´t be
> > able to set up this game-service without having trouble 
> > because of lags
> > within the software.
> > 
> > GET IT OUT NOW, NOT TOMORROW!
> > 
> > Christian Lahme
> > GAJA-Networks
> > 
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Fredriksson, Andreas [mailto:andreas.fredriksson at dice.se]
> > Gesendet: Montag, 26. Mai 2003 10:31
> > An: 'bf1942 at icculus.org'
> > Betreff: RE: [bf1942] Should i Wine or should i go ?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > we're getting there. The patch has grown a bit to 
> accomodate a lot of 
> > bug fixes mainly for win32, but we're getting there. You'll 
> probably 
> > have played it for quite a while in July..
> > 
> > But don't quote me on any of this ;-)
> > 
> > // Andreas
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: keats at prophecy.be [mailto:keats at prophecy.be]
> > > Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2003 3:53 PM
> > > To: bf1942 at icculus.org
> > > Subject: [bf1942] Should i Wine or should i go ?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I know you are bound to non-disclosure by the dice release
> > > manager; and I
> > > know why the 1.4 isn't out yet (a few last win32 bugs), but
> > > another friday
> > > has passed, another week no patch. My superior has given me 
> > a deadline
> > > concerning our battlefield server section so I'm getting
> > > pretty desperate.
> > > 
> > > This mail is not meant to whine or beg or try to double 
> the amount 
> > > of grey hair on your head, but Andreas, can't you even 
> give an order
> > > of magnitude
> > > as to when we can expect it? The reason I ask this is simple 
> > > : if you say
> > > for instance : chances are pretty big we won't be able to 
> > > release the 1.4
> > > patch before the summer holiday's (july here ;) ), then I 
> > > would like to
> > > know now so I can suggest the alternative Wine/windows server 
> > > combination.
> > > If, on the other hand, it is only a matter of at most a few 
> > > weeks, I can
> > > still be patient for a little while longer and hope and pray :)
> > > 
> > > Don't get me wrong, you are undoubtedly doing a great job and I 
> > > appreciate the updates which make this list worth while, 
> but I have 
> > > to
> > choose now
> > > between keeping on waiting and trying alternatives/giving up
> > > our servers.
> > > So even the vaguest, unofficial, smallest hint, preferrably 
> > > expressed in a
> > > real timeframe (not very very very soon ;) ), would mean a 
> > > lot to me, and
> > > undoubtedly many others on this list.
> > > 
> > 
>