[bf1942] RE : Re: AW: [bf1942] Where can i DL

[Jim McKibben]

My 2 cents,

I work for an ISP that has to deal with costs of getting and making sure all installations are legal and such, so we can't just slap a Windows Box on our network and not worry about MS being upset they didn't get their exuberant paycheck for making the OS.  So we love the *nix boxes (a much cheaper and more customizable option).  Hence I had to 'make mine linux' and save myself some money and force myself to learn something new (which is better for anyone).

I would have to agree, MS Servers generally are a lot simpler to setup, but with ANY application or server you run, you have to know as much as you can about it.  Forgetting to setup a certain feature, security measure, or logging system can bring down any system, MS or *nix.

To bring this completely back on topic, I wish too that EA would have a much stronger and dedicated Linux Development Dept.  You would think that with the recent Linux Gaming Conventions and such, they would have noticed the importance in Developing for more than just one OS (lets not bring up the Mac OS which Developers don't consider enough anyways - I am not actually a Mac Guru myself, I just have a lot of friends that are).

j0nny5
"be the ball danny"

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Richards [mailto:noxis at clara.net]
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 11:15 AM
To: bf1942 at icculus.org
Subject: Re: [bf1942] RE : Re: AW: [bf1942] Where can i DL


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ola Fransson" <ola.fransson at home.se>
To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [bf1942] RE : Re: AW: [bf1942] Where can i DL


> as i see it,
> MS Server is a server for Dumies, you can put it up if you know how to
press
> next...if you set it up with out turning on and off services that you do
not
> need and so on you will have a server that does not work great at all not
in
> my prespective anyway. (but how sets up a server without configure it???)
> Linux, well, you are most of the time forced to configure it , and you
> almost need some knowlage or at least to read the manual but its not hard
to
> get a linux server not to function correctly if you dont know what your
are
> doing.
> Some thing that amuses me very much is to see people talking about how the
> could only get there Windows 2000 Server to run stable for X days and
there
> linux boxes were running for the 5th year now, how can that be? is it just
> because the linux freaks have decide not to like Windows and there fore
not
> put as much effort in trying to get the server to preform correctly or
maby
> that they is wery poor in knowlage about windows?
>
> Now dont go get upset by this, i think linux and windows is great, its
> almost allways the due or gal behind the keyboard who makes the mess.
>
> Yes and one more note, what are EA thinking, ofcorse the Linux server
should
> be priorotized, now think, how is hosting the game servers? is it big
> companys how has afford to by a Windows 2000 Server or a 2003 even, or is
it
> the private user who has no founding at all? ok some ISPs migth be
intrested
> in running servers but in the big picture?
> I had to installl Windows 2000 Server just to be able to run the BF server
> and will switch back as soon as the Linux BF exits the beta state (to poor
> windows knowlage to do anything fun with it)
>
> Nuf´Said....
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul Richards" <noxis at clara.net>
> To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
> Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 3:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [bf1942] RE : Re: AW: [bf1942] Where can i DL
>
>
> > Windows .NET is very good and very stable, uptime of 2 months on my last
> box
> > running 2 BF1942 server. Mind you I did just nuke it and put freebsd on
> > there...
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tyler "Overkill" Schwend" <tasf at tds.net>
> > To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
> > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 1:26 PM
> > Subject: RE: [bf1942] RE : Re: AW: [bf1942] Where can i DL
> >
> >
> > > Unless Windows releases a stable O.S.? You Linux zealots wouldn't
> > > notice if Microsoft released a stable O.S. unless they had
> > > someone else release it.
> > >
> > > ---------
> > > Tyler "[TASF]Overkill" Schwend
> > > "Semper facere bonum, an a amare odium, vita mors."
> > > ---
> > > Server operator of [LCGA]Telefragged:
> > > Counter-Strike: telefragged.lynchburg.edu:27015
> > > http://schwend-t.web.lynchburg.edu
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

As a GSP we have to charge quite a bit more for our BF servers simply
because we have to have a Windows license not to mention the obvious facts
that the game requires more cpu and bandwidth. The uptimes of the Windows
servers move into several weeks stability is not really a problem as long as
you choose good well matched hardware and have them in a proper air
conditioned enviroment, but even then its hardware stability thats the issue
there not the OS, I dont know anyone who would host a server on Win95/98/ME
which are the only real unstable MS operating systems. NT/2000/XP are all
fine and uptimes can run into months.

Also because of the Windows OS needed for BF it means we are very limited in
the public servers we can host as the cost is alot more and we would have to
actually spend money to host the pubs when there is no guranteed return on
the investment, obviously because of this we dont sponsor any clans at all a
BF server where as sometimes we may tack on a small quake based engine
server onto a *nix box because you hardly notice them. Where as *nix servers
are a cheap to run quicker to setup a game server on , more stable and 9
times out of 10 faster. Personal preference being FreeBSD for game server as
it tends to perform better.

Just my 2mhz for the topic anyway.

-Nox