AW: [bf1942] 1.4 and disablin mods????

[Fredriksson, Andreas]

Hi Jon, and others with questions regarding client side mods.

I can't really see what this has to do with the linux server..

But anyway, there will be a server-side setting to block
or accept clients with modified data; we just haven't announced
it. So if the server allows it, you can play with Merciless
and other client side mods, but I imagine a lot of server
administrators will be happy now that they can also disallow
these kinds of mods for tournaments etc.

// Andreas

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon
To: bf1942 at icculus.org
Sent: 4/21/2003 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: AW: [bf1942] 1.4 and disablin mods????

I guess my test worked.

My name is Jon Wolberg, and I am the Manager of Tech Support for
ECGNetwork.Com, a game server rental company.  I work with BF1942
servers
everyday and I would say that I am pretty experienced in them.  I am
pretty
excited about the Linux server as i've been reading these emails for
months
now.  We run all of our games on Linux unless there is no LinuxDed for
it.
I really hope that the Linux server will be stable, and not crash all
the
time like the current Windows one does.

Anyway, let me get to the point of my response.  I talk to Prowlinger (
creator of Merciless Creations ) on a daily basis, and since the topic
was
swayed towards his mod, I showed him your response.  Here's what he said
to
it:

"Merciless 1942 wants to be secure.. they want to stop cheating but they
want to be functional as a client using the BF1942 game... not their own
custom one. This would require a contengiency that Dice accept Merciless
1942 to work just like the 2 Dice expansions work... client side yet
locked
and secure"

"Merciless wants their fans to be able to log on to any current 1942
server
and play using their addon... how ever Dice and Merciless can arrange
this..
Merciless is willing to do it. Merciless is begging to remain secure and
allow all users and fans the ability to get on all current 1942 servers
running the BF1942 server type (not a custom MC1942 server type). They
will
lock everything down and allow NO client customization if they could
achieve
this."

He e-mailed DICE with this solution two months ago to no avail.  His
e-mail
was more extensive than the description above for obvious reasons.  It
included a fix to the problem that would let true modders still be able
to
make client-side mods but the cheats would stop working.  He was
ignored.

If its not asking too much, i'd also like Andreas to respond to this.

Jon Wolberg
www.ECGNetwork.Com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andrew Von Niederhausern" <avonnied at genetics.utah.edu>
To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2003 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: AW: [bf1942] 1.4 and disablin mods????



it wouldn't be that bad.. the only problem is merciless has said they
will
not go server side..

if you want to play merciless you need to talk to them.. from the sound
of
hte cries there would be no shortage of merciless servers out there.

the thing that really irks me is that merciless for the longest time has
stated over and over that they dont' supporting cheating yet they don't
support this move.. personally i think this is long long over due.


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Travis Adams" <travis_adams at hotmail.com>
Reply-To: bf1942 at icculus.org
Date:  Sun, 20 Apr 2003 16:39:47 +0000

>yea but all the fans of the Merciless Creation packs and blood patches
(like
>myself) are gonna be a little bumed, but what ever it takes to stop
cheating
>I'm all for.
>
>
>ToMKaT
>
>
>
>>From: "Martin Steiger" <martin at steigi.com>
>>Reply-To: bf1942 at icculus.org
>>To: <bf1942 at icculus.org>
>>Subject: AW: [bf1942] 1.4 and disablin mods????
>>Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2003 12:30:21 +0200
>>
>>Yes, they're talking about client-side mods. Since DC is a server side
mod
>>(the server needs the DC-files), Desert Combat is not affected by
this.
>>
>>Read more in the DC-Forum
>>(http://forums.bf42.com/showthread.php?threadid=24400)
>>
>>Cheers, Martin
>>
>>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
>>Von: ronin-x at web.de [mailto:ronin-x at web.de]
>>Gesendet: Sonntag, 20. April 2003 12:01
>>An: bf1942 at icculus.org
>>Betreff: [bf1942] 1.4 and disablin mods????
>>
>>
>>I read in forums, that dice and ea wanna disable clientside mods, to
>>disable
>>cheats, some people cry, because they think DC wont work anymore...
>>sorry, for this offtopic question, but does someone know more about
this???
>>
>>
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